she was active with the children defense fund. i was there at an event in chicago in 1992 where she caused a huge stir campaigning for bill clinton when she said, what do you expect me to do? stay home and bake cookies and have tea? a lot of housewives took offense to that. look, she saved his campaign during the jennifer flowers outbreak, she saved his presidency during the monica lewinsky by standing by him and becoming a force of her own when she left the senate and then helped the obama administration. she's been so critical in the last two democratic presidential campaigns. one, of course, her husband and then the first african-american, never been a ceo, didn't have much experience in the united states senate. a remarkable figure. the question now, of course, is what next? >> i give him a lot of credit for reaching out to his formal rival for the democratic nomination, trusting her to be the secretary of state. she's done an excellent job over the last four years. she'll rest a little bit, write a book, do some good deeds. i